The introduction to his second edition is so full of paranoid theorizing,2 that although it is quoted extensively and interpolated with favorable comments by Michael Bara (or possibly Richard Hoagland), the most extreme conspiracy claims are omitted.3. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Worse still, hundreds of thousands of years ago, Sirius B was a dying red giant. The Dogon were in fact aware of the fact that Sirius is a binary system (i.e. The Dogon and Sirius. van Beek, Walter E. A. He also gives public talks on astronomy and related fringe topics to international audiences. answer is that they got this information from amphibious aliens from outer The two anthropologists had lived among the Dogon tribe in Africa since 1931, and in 1946 Griaule was initiated into the religious secrets of the tribe. Temple's book and the debates that followed its release publicized the existence of the Dogon tribe among many New Age followers and proponents of ancient astronaut theories. As an example, Sagan believes that because the Dogon seem to have no knowledge of another planet beyond Saturn which has rings, their knowledge is therefore more likely to have come from European, and not extraterrestrial, sources.[11]. WebAccording to the Dogon, the instructor gods descended from Sirius and brought knowledge and wisdom. It is also possible to conclude that such a star could in no way be responsible for the flurry of sightings from the 1920s, it would be too faint and too close to Sirius A to have ever been seen by visual observers.[17]. Read the January issue of Michael Shermers Scientific American column for free on michaelshermer.com: Kool-Aid Psychology: How optimism trumped realism in the positive-psychology movement. Most important, no one, even within the circle The Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. The Dogons were not isolated. 1999. % Temples response to criticism has so far been evasive. He has written of Temples belief that present-day authorities are unwilling to set aside the blinkers of orthodoxy, unable to admit the validity of anything that lies outside their field or that offers a challenge to the status quo. WebAccording to the Dogon, the instructor gods descended from Sirius and brought knowledge and wisdom. WebNew evidence deals a devastating blow to what was considered to be the best case for extraterrestrial visitation. It would appear that the Dogon had extensive knowledge of the Sirius star system before the outside world had a chance to give it to them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sirius_Mystery. characteristics. This is a complicated issue, because several special interest groups each claim the Dogon for their own. Some of this information has been selectively interpreted by Temple to support his claims. Carl. Sirius was already the subject of a mystery concerning the traditional lore of the Dogon tribe of Mali, near Timbuktu in western Africa. They all have one thing in common: enormous monsters. Liam McDaid is Astronomy Coordinator and Professor of Astronomy at Sacramento City College. September 1976 saw (And presumably, that the Egyptians then located their river deltas, eases, and river ports deliberately on geometric rather than purely geographical grounds, I'm tempted to ask?) Print versions available in Dutch, Russian, Japanese, and Korean. Temples What is interesting is that the Dogon knew about Sirius and its triple star system way before modern science found out its existence. traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. In their original findings, Griaule and Deiterlen make no comment about the Dogon knowledge of Sirius B. One of the problems the UFO crowd has is providing an answer to the question of where the aliens who visit us come from. According to the Dogon, the instructor gods descended from Sirius and brought knowledge and wisdom. Ridpath asserts. Griaule," Current Anthropology 32, 1992, pp. No other anthropologist supports their opinions. Tom Sever's "The Obsession with the Star Sirius," and editor Ron Oriti's "On Not Taking it Seriously." WebThe population numbers between 400,000 and 800,000.. . For instance, the anthropologist Walter Van Beek, who studied the Dogon after Griaule and Dieterlen, found no evidence that the Dogon considered Sirius to be a double star and/or that astronomy was particularly important in their belief system. So much for the Nommos. After being surprised that an astromomy association would, after all this time, bother to publish such an article, I did a web search and found that in 1997 Robert Temple published a second edition of the book that started it all TheSirius Mystery in which he addressed none of the main criticisms that had been directed against the first edition, published in 1976. Temple claimed that the Dogon knew about two smaller stars that are closely related to Sirius Sirius B and Sirius C. The mystery was how they had obtained this knowledge, as these companion stars cannot be seen by the unaided eye. Classical mythology has been a Rorschach test into which people have projected nearly any notion that appealed to them. Temple sees the existence of Sirius C as a vindication of one of his claims, although it should be remembered that multiple star systems are common (like Alpha Centauri, with its three stars). The Dogon also hold a big sigui ceremony every 60 years, which some interpret as representing the period of time it takes Sirius B to go around Sirius A. One additional disturbing note: That distance has been computed based on a true geodetic oblate spheroid, but even assuming a flat surface would only have introduced an error of a few tenths of one percent at most (Temple obviously didn't know that, or he wouldn't have asserted that measurements even less accurate than that were proof that ancients took Earth's sphericity into account.). <> Temple does not argue that contact with an advanced civilization is the only way that the Dogon could have obtained what he understood to be accurate information on Sirius B, but he indicates that he personally finds the theory of alien contact more convincing. The Dogon are believed to be of Egyptian decent and their astronomical lore goes back thousands of years to 3200 BC. 6, "White (Copyright Lee Krystek 1998) In Mali, West Africa, lives a tribe of people called the Dogon. WebNew evidence deals a devastating blow to what was considered to be the best case for extraterrestrial visitation. Here, then, is another datum to be investigated when it is possible." The obviously advanced astronomical knowledge must have come from somewhere, but is it an ancient bequest or a modern graft? A dynamical study published in 1995, based on anomalous perturbations of Sirius B (suggestive of the star being gravitationally influenced by another body) concluded that the presence of a third star orbiting Sirius could not be ruled out. The inspiration for this claim was a star map produced by Betty Hill while under hypnosis. claims about the antiquity of this information or of a connection with Sagan, Carl. In other words, the Dogon tribe would not only need the knowledge but also a telescope in order for them to have the information they already seemed to possess. Temple claims that bas-reliefs of the Sumerian demigod Oannes, which depict a "fish man," prove Nommo, whom the author identifies as the ancestor of the Dogon Nommo myths, was an amphibious extraterrestrial. Precise maps at the NASA space photo interpretation lab in Houston list "Behdet" as an ancient name for modern Damanhur, located today at 31.03 degN, 30.28 degE, i.e., more than a hundred kilometers away from where Temple locates his "Behdet" at 31.50 degN, 31.23 degE. To penetrate this supposed disguise (which might not be a disguise at all, other classical scholars maintain), Temple resorts to ancient puns, to hidden meanings, to "garbled versions" which he must amend to fit the theory, to the exchange of consonants in innocent-looking words, to similar-sounding words from this about a star that cannot be seen without telescopes, and he made no That in itself is extraordinary.". New evidence deals a devastating blow to what was considered to be the best case for extraterrestrial visitation. Temple's impressive research was encouraged by noted futurist Arthur C, Clarke (although Clarke now prefers the "modern influence" hypothesis). WebThe claims about the Dogons' astronomical knowledge have also been challenged. However, doubts have been raised about the reliability of Griaule and Dieterlen's work on which The Sirius Mystery is based,[4][5] and alternative explanations have been proposed. As the brightest star in the sky it was known and worshiped by ancient civilizations. Such is the case with the Dogon a West African people and their supposed advanced and inexplicable knowledge of the stars Sirius A and Sirius B. Sirius A is the brightest star in our sky. Conversations With sun and the phases of the moon are more pertinent for Dogon reckoning. October 1977 saw Marvin Luckermann's "More Sirius Difficulties," on ancient calendar systems and an alternate, non- extraterrestrial explanation for the ancient fascination with the number fifty (the article quotes Michael Astour's book Hellenosemitics as saying, "This exorbitant figure, very popular in Greek myths, has its explanation: it is the number of seven-day weeks in one lunar year. At the latitude of Egypt, over distances of several hundred kilometers, planetary curvature introduces distortions only on the order of fractions of kilometers, not the tens of kilometers worth of inaccuracies I found in Temple's claim. So where does this leave the mysteries of Sirius? to other visible stars near Sirius as recognition of the invisible The bad news is that the pseudoscience websites were in seventeen different languages. (2004). The Skeptics Society is a non-profit, Sagan, Carl 1980. As James and Thorpe point out, he took star maps along with him on his field trips as a way of prompting his informants to divulge their knowledge of the stars. [12] According to Oberg, the Dogons' astronomical information resembled the knowledge and speculations of late 1920s Europe, suggesting that the Dogon were influenced by European visitors before their mythology was recorded in the 1930s. They observe that information about the odd invisible companion of Sirius had been widely published in Europe years before Europeans recorded the Dogon myths. Zeta Reticuli 2 (with about the same temperature and mass as the Sun) is another candidate. ", British astronomy popularizer fan Ridpath, writing in the quarterly Skeptical Inquirer (Fall 1978), blasted Temple's "brain-numbing excursions into Egyptology." Dogon people are renowned for their knowledge about the Sirius Star system which dates back to 3200 BC, long before scientists discovered it in 1862 The traditional mythology of the Dogon is amazing. extraterrestrial visitor tells earthmen about the undiscovered Martian moons. ", Investigating Temple has either misinterpreted Dogon beliefs, or distorted Scientists learn that the Dogon do not possess secret knowledge about the star Sirius and its companions. extraterrestrials, the Nommos, some 5,000 years ago. The Bad Archaeology page on the Sirius Mystery has summarize the basic details well: In 1976, Robert K G Temple (born 1945), an American living in the UK, published what was to become a seminal work of Bad Archaeology, The Sirius Mystery. space. Griaule either For example, he claims that the Dogon have a drawing like the one in Figure 1. (2004). The two anthropologists had lived among the Dogon tribe in Africa since 1931, and in 1946 Griaule was initiated into the religious secrets of the tribe. And finally, even if Sirius B had been a visible red giant a few thousand years ago, how would the Dogon know that Sirius B was still there after it became a white dwarf? Our mysteries may be different but our questions are the same and we are no wiser. He shows a total ignorance or disregard for almost every fact in my book, and there is hardly a single thing in his review which is remotely accurate." But that isn't the only parallel. The Dogon people had been visited by European visitors many times, most notably when they hosted French astronomers looking to find a good vantage point to observe the solar eclipse of 1893. G. Stein (Amherst, N.Y.: Prometheus Books, 1996), pp. Griaule did not attempt to explain how the Dogon could know I suspect not.". Temple's theory is heavily based on his interpretation of the work of ethnographers Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen. Ideas originally published in 1948, reprint (Oxford University Press 1997). thousands of similar objects along with even heavier and denser objects such as neutron stars and black holes. [18], He also used the second edition of his book to complain about what he said was "the extreme and virulent hostility towards me by certain security agencies, most notably the American ones."[19]. Used under aCreative Commons license. All rights reserved. Based on Carrolls website (skepdic.com), the Dictionary is the definitive short-answer debunking of nearly every thing skeptical. knowledge of the satellites of Jupiter and rings of Saturn, among other In explaining his role Asimov reveals another dimension of Temple's scholarship. Scientists learn that the Dogon do not possess secret knowledge about the star Sirius and its companions. %PDF-1.4 If a European had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in the sky and the center of Dogon mythology. Melanin Conference, San Francisco, September 16-17, 1987"). It is also the home of the brightest star in the night sky, Sirius A. The former study also concluded that while a triple system for Sirius could not be fully eliminated, the probability was low. 139-167. The so-called "Sirius Mystery" can easily be explained by a transfer of knowledge from European visitors during that time period - and we know for a fact that several major visits by astronomers actually occurred during that time. If a European had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in the sky and the center of Dogon mythology. According to Sagan, western Africa has had many visitors from You dont have to watch too many Fantasy Channel (formerly known as the History Channel) specials on ancient astronauts before youll be told about the primitive African Dogon of Mali and their advanced astronomical knowledge bestowed, of course, by extraterrestrials. The Nommos descended from the sky in a vessel accompanied by fire and thunder. 30-31. There are innocent available explanations: typographical error or miscopied notes, for example. Why would Europeans feel compelled that they needed to discuss astronomy with such a primitive tribe and why would this transfer of knowledge that only lasted 5 weeks have such an impact on the Dogan people that they would include it in their cultural practices? More recent research suggests that the contaminator was Griaule himself. WebNew evidence deals a devastating blow to what was considered to be the best case for extraterrestrial visitation. Below: The Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy (discovered in 2003) is the nearest known galaxy to the centre of the Milky Way. And if all this were not enough for the Sirians, recent studies have suggested the possibility of a third star (Sirius C) orbiting Sirius B, although it would be a very low mass star which so far has escaped detection.5 Stable planetary orbits may be very hard to find in the Sirian system. Afrocentrists, on the other hand, claimed that the Dogon could see Broca's Brain (New York: Random House, 1979), Temple lists a number of astronomical beliefs held by the Dogon that The Stone Age storytellers speak by their campfires of other people on other planets and of other mysteries. The Dogon myths may or may not be related to these other putties (or even to Kepler's supernova, which has been seriously suggested.) Such assimilation occurs most frequently when the subject is one of particular interest to a people -- as Sirius is to the Dogons. "The ancient peoples were not concealing information from us out of spite," he writes. WebDogon and the Sirius Mystery. Sirius. The proof is supplied by (the Odyssey), where Helios is said to possess 7 herds of 50 cows each and 7 herds of 50 sheep, a transparent allegory of the days and nights of the year.") Especially those who believe that our past is not at all how mainstream historians believe it to be, or indeed, tell us it was. ), many debunked issues keep rising from the dead like vampires springing from their tombs. The Dogon are believed to be of Egyptian decent and their astronomical lore goes back thousands of years to 3200 BC. Liam is the author of Urban Astronomy and is a Senior Scientist for Skeptic. The Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. WebDogon and the Sirius Mystery. Copyright 19922023. The Nommos descended from the sky in a vessel accompanied by fire and thunder. Temple, however, has stated in the reprint of The Sirius Mystery (1999) that he in no way supports what he refers to as "sinister cults" that have been inspired by his book. A recent newsletter from my local astronomy association still found the Dogon and their mysterious knowledge of Sirius B worth mentioning. Schroder, D.J., et al. WebThe star Sirius is certainly no stranger to mysteries. theorizes that the myths may refer to a gigantic supernova. Several possibilities exist. Also if it was seeded by westerners how is the Dogon and surrounding tribes have a fully developed culture and religion structure centered around Sirius going back for hundreds of years? He certainly did not have permission to use that statement as part of the promotion, I'11 just have to be even more careful hereafter.". The cartographer took all such factors into account. Its appearance in the dawn sky over Egypt warned of the impending Nile floods and the summer's heat and marked the beginning of the Egyptian calendar. that by the time Griaule arrived, the Dogon may have had a grounding in 20th "their purpose in disguising their secrets was to see that the secrets could survive.". Sirius figures prominently in the Dogon myths. The good news is that two of the first five entries were from skeptical websites (CSICOP and Bob Carrolls Skeptics Dictionary). (Temple claims missionaries didn't show up until 1949.) The basic thesis is this: the Dogon (who live in the African nation of Mali, near the border with Burkina Faso) allegedly have long possessed arcane astronomical knowledge that should have been impossible for them to discover without modern telescopes. amphibious aliens or telescopic vision due to melanin. (Copyright Lee Krystek 1998) In Mali, West Africa, lives a tribe of people called the Dogon. The book presents the hypothesis that the Dogon people of Mali, in West Africa, preserve a tradition of contact with intelligent extraterrestrial beings from the Sirius star system. [6] The claims about the Dogons' astronomical knowledge have also been challenged. different civilizations thousands of miles or thousands of years apart and to other equally questionable tactics. no conclusions of any kind." For instance, the anthropologist Walter Van Beek, who studied the Dogon after Griaule and Dieterlen, found no evidence that the Dogon considered Sirius to be a double star and/or that astronomy was particularly important in their belief system. For instance, the anthropologist Walter Van Beek, who studied the Dogon after Griaule and Dieterlen, found no evidence that the Dogon considered Sirius to be a double star and/or that astronomy was particularly important in their belief system. The tribe has a periodic Sirius festival called the "Segui" ceremony; each celebration lasts several years (the last was in 1968-72.) As Picknett and Prince have been able to show, Temples arguments are often based on erroneous readings of encyclopdia entries and misrepresentations of ancient Egyptian mythology. In 1952, Young was one of nine people present during the first contact with the Council, an event initiated by Andrija Puharich, the man who brought Israeli spoonbender Uri Geller to America. 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