Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about their relationship) TV NEWS 1.38K subscribers Subscribe 44K views 3 years ago Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking. The Watts' house reminds me of a size 14 girl squeezing into a size 6 dress. From her sketchy past and grifting ways, to the possible Munchausen Syndrome or Factitious Disorder, to the MLM scheme she was knee-deep in, to her dozens of vapid Facebook livestreams and Instagram posts now eternally available for public consumption and dissection, to her manipulation of "friends" and family, it's evident she was at best a woman desperate to appear more successful than she was ever capable of being, and at worst, a straight up con woman. Ill never get tired of speculating about her Munchhausens. That is a comment that should never have been said; parenthood is exhausting and social media never forgives human missteps. There was no one in Shananns life that she didnt make use of. I don't knowdon't strive to live in the suburbs in a big fucking house with a spouse who spends money or one who is mentally unstable and has access to oil vats, and, most importantly, don't fucking have kids. - they owed. Any links? The community of Frederick, Colorado and the entire nation was horrified when Chris killed his entire family in August 2018. Whats even MORE puzzling is how she bought that first house. A Colorado man has allegedly confessed to killing his pregnant wife and two young children after giving an earlier interview telling a completely different story. Maybe Shanann was exercising a little self-discipline and not buying dining room furniture till they could afford it?". Ill correct this post if I have to - its a three -way conversation with Shanann, Cassie, and Nickole so its confusing. The girls in the tanks, neatly hidden from view. Colorado takes moving, and parental alienation, very seriously. Go back to your thoughts and prayers and handwringing over how things like this can happen, while never trying to actually make sense of it beyond coming to the conclusion of CRAZY. The woman who started googling Chris Watts and Shanann Watts just after the Mead explosion. For the kind of woman Shannon was, she wouldnt have just given up on her two children even if Chris had left. At home they would be in different rooms and she was always too busy for what LEONARD had going on. The house in CO was purchased under Chriss name, guaranteed by Shanannas mom, and then Shanann was added to the deed later. Why does everyone keep saying, 'But back to Shannan?' I also want to see her car model pictures too. shit, and Chris made, what around 90,000 a year? He has changed. Jesus Christ dangling from the cross what is wrong with some of you. That was a detailed and well written article, R227; better than most others I have read about his new confession. Watts' wife was 15 weeks pregnant. She was pretty smart with her lupus act, because, like fibromyalgia, it has broad diagnostic criteria that mostly depends on patient reporting. And Shanann invites Josh and Cassie to live with them so Josh can get a job with Ace Hardware. How did they swing this house?! Six days later, she was dead -- strangled at the hands of her own husband. I feel like I need to add something special to my name too. He learned of this case from social media and news. LEONARD agreed to share my contact information with his wife for her to call, if she knew anything about SHANANN, possibly through Thrive.". Every quality I listed was well-documented in her videos and texts which revealed her dealings with others, as well as her attitude and perspective. I like it - two snarky, bitchy Englishwomen can be quite entertaining. Controlling and always right. The friend calling 911 early didn't leave him time to dispose of her purse, keys, kids' medicines, etc. Lucky for these scammers theres HIPAA. At home they would be in different rooms and she was always too busy for what LEONARD had going on. Didnt like his Mustang, made him sell it. Press J to jump to the feed. You can try and shame me for being obsessed with this case, but it wont work. Chris Watts, 33, allegedly admitted to killing his wife, 34-year-old Shanann, and his daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. Does anyone think Shan'ann killed her ugly kids, like Chrissy claimed? They were large policies, $250k or $500k. She was not fleeing North Carolina. SHANANN would stay gone, but he was never concerned that something happened to her. You have some real writing talent. Dont interrupt me. LEONARD actually did not know SHANANNs last name until a few days ago. Directed by Jenny Popplewell, the 82-minute true crime film uses social media footage and text messages to establish the appropriate context for the familial dynamics. How do you think she bought that house on a retail managers salary? I've been following the story somewhat closely, too. Weve never had a problem in our relationship like this. However his mistress and HER boyfriend (Jim Gotuski), should also be in prison for the rest of THEIR lives. And to restate the obvious again - if you are married, make sure you have your own individual accounts. First of all, its doubtful a 100k surgery, or whatever, resulted in a 25k debt. I disagree r147, not with your assertions about how the kids would've ended up, but with Chris taking any of it into consideration. Bella was born December 17, 2013 in Colorado. Police footage shows the . This is sweet as well. Keith Griffith For Dailymail.com You are a complete moron if you think she killed her kids. I'm laughing at Scam'Ann and Sham'Ann. R30, were you shilling that onesie on the old Topix forum? Phil Hartmans wife was another first name changer. They were good marks, since they sold everything in 2015, quit their jobs, and moved in with Chris and Shanann for 15 months while Shanann was pregnant with CeCe, who was born July, 2015. The fact that she had 3 pregnancies when she'd told everyone her Lupus doctor said she'd never have children. Also, the surgery was in autumn, 2017, two years after the 2015 BK. Shanann hidden in a very shallow grave. Coverts are nominally closet bi-sexuals. Mrs. Watts is the smallest one. Women like that can get him to do anything. Please click here to register for free. 'I dont know what to think about this' Shanann wrote above the photo, adding two laughing-tears emojis. At least the Watts kids had a good life while they had one. A 12 yo girl took it for one day and felt amazing! The fact that he didn't anticipate her friends blowing up her phone shows how dumb he is. I listened to the RedHanded podcast posted upthread. No, R108. There were rumors that she was banging her boss, Hisham. Oh how Shanann was so excited to be able to have another child because of her battle with Lupus. I'm not R147 but the first 3 seem to fit R150. Shanann was born January 10, 1984 in New Jersey to Frank Rzucek and Sandra Onorati Rzucek. Unless the new lover is a threat to the kids or is causing financial ruin. Facebook & its ilk are full of fraus like her -- none of them deserve to die but all of them are annoying as hell. The documentary pieced together the events . Thank you so much, Your email address will not be published. (He was moved out of Colorado for security reasons.). Would you know my name if I saw you thriving in heaven? Husband Christopher Watts, 33, is being held without bail, and faces three counts of murder and three counts of interfering with evidence. NK was a normal, healthy, financial-responsible woman who loved Colorado sightseeing, hiking, camping, probably skiing, exploring natural resources, and all things normal people do in Colorado. I don't think sshe would EVER have been satisfied with any sense of "enough". Shananns worries about her marriage had eaten up her confidence in Chris and their bond together. How hard is it to diagnose asthma? LEONARD denied that he currently had any policies on her life. Shanann met Chris Lee Watts in 2010. Jesus. DEFINITELY 1 and 3, probably 2. https://www.businessinsider.co.za/professions-with-the-most-psychopaths-2018-5?r=US&IR=T. She was an odious frau and I could believe she was a Munchausen's case. Jesus. He had already been contacted by NBC News. Who extends credit to a bankrupt couple living in a gigantic home? 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Of course, I could make up a few believable stories about someone like this, too. My sister and I both had asthma when we were kids in the 80s. Walk away, wimp. The discovery docs included an interview with the ex. How does he go from doing their hair every morning and making sure they had baths & snacks everyday (and reading them bedtime stories, etc.) Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The daughters stayed home with Watts in Colorado while Shanann was on the trip, she told police. Some features on this site require a subscription. I asked about SHANANNs skills in conflict resolution. 107: Chris was cheating, so he had no power. It's 2:50 am and I can't sleep. Just saying, R244 Like that YouTube family whose kid died of a random heart or brain condition and they livestreamed his funeral "for the fans". The only other option would have been for Chris to be full-time parent. Your latest Netflix obsession has arrived. Image from Facebook. Its very clinical and he doesnt sound like he has real empathy for what they went through. The coldness is just stunning. Hello and thank you for being a DL contributor. From all that we know, that sounds exactly like CW, and shrinking-violet SW was being dragged along and acquiesced to whatever her man told her to do. Shanann Cathryn Watts, 34 and daughters Bella Marie Watts, 4 & Celeste Cathryn Watts, 3 & unborn son Nico Lee of Frederick, Colorado, died on Thursday, August 16, 2018. She did not "purchase" any house. Services are entrusted to Boles Funeral Home of Southern Pines. R197, If you watch the videos when she live-streams from the deck, back beyond their house looks like a dump -- literally, the city dump. I spoke with LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. Regardless she didnt murder her children, the psychopath Chris Watts took their lives . Or maybe it was a way to get bill collectors off her tail. Those girls probably ate it all the time. If you can't find the email you can resend it here. Maybe if he'd convinced a judge that Shan'ann was a dishonest grifter he would have succeeded. Sister of Private. Divorced and hanging out at da club promoting the rim shop. Idk how that bitch is still getting TV interviews after the cops were likeyeah this is bullshit. Here's the latest of countless DL threads on that hot, murdering husband for you, r5. Joint for joint expenses, and yet have your own liquid accounts. Technically, Chris had power in a divorce action, but because he was so trapped financially, he couldnt even start the process and learn that he did have some options. One of the detectives admonished him, "Yes, but we I am asking you about Shannan now". I asked about SHANANNs skills in conflict resolution. Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche] January 14, 2019 / crimerocket_pmfrt4 / 34 Comments. R162: A woman with a job equals whore in your world. It was a part of his responsibility. With Shanann (disclaimer: no, of course she didnt deserve to die!) Holy fuck. If so, nice of him not to say so. Even after she moved to CO and was a married mother. But that's a lot to expect from some people's mental faculties I guess. No wonder Cindy and Ronnie Watts said she was bipolar. There were no albuterol pumps or nebulizers then. He had already been contacted by NBC News. Its endlessly fascinating. does Chris slowly pay it back by making license plates? R19, my mistake. Back in NC, she was working for Dirty South Customs, managing the store. John Forbes officiating. "I'm worried about Shanann," she told Chris. The family of a pregnant Colorado woman who was murdered by her husband paid tribute to her and said she was 'born to be a mother' at her joint funeral with her two daughters and unborn son. Walking away from his family would've left him (and then, obviously) far better off than where he is now. They were large policies, $250k or $500k. Chris would have been on the hook for everything. That can occur when a nerd suddenly becomes hot or he's just a crazy. Was he going to explode them in a tank and then sue? I cant figure out how they got so deeply in debt AGAIN after the first bankruptcy. LOL. "She had dreams to be fulfilled" and "wanted to be an exceptional wife and mother," the pastor said of Watts, 34. She was 25. I need you to meet me halfway. ", Weeks earlier, while she was in North Carolina visiting her family with daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, she wrote to Chris: l realized during this trip whats missing in our relationship! That was also around the time she was diagnosed with lupus. R199, I saw that. He buried Shanann in a shallow grave near an oil-storage facility, and dumped his children's bodies into crude oil tanks. Do you know where she's at?" And once she was done she cut him out of her life. I have to wonder if she didnt try to historically get some cash contributions from her parents by asserting she had medical debt. The FBI agents are being complimented as ingenius interrogators, but their smarminess is also cringeworthy. The 500K was in 2015as of 2018, they were about 100K in debt (student loans, etc.) All her bad decisions and shadyness led her to her violent death. He just doesnt. R154: why did Chris have her sell her house, drag her across the country, purchase a $400K house he could not afford in his name only, then murder her and their children? I felt all along there was apparently a rush by the prosecution to get this case brought to closure while ignoring various aspects that to me were very important. At first, Watts' husband, Chris Watts, agreed to TV interviews, where he appeared torn up over their disappearance and begged for their safe return. There was also a history of her old houses sale price. His facial expressions reveal that he's more complex than that. I also love when people say she got a huge settlement from her first husband in their divorce. Another one is when people go around telling you: Im OCD Im a straight shooter Im a scatterbrain Im not here for drama. R231, thats a very good point. Chris did a lot to help around the house yes he was the father of the family. I could see there being an inexplicable level of anger there that could explode inside Chris & make him snapand be crazy & cold as fuck with her, but two scared little girls? R181, the house is surrounded by water on 3 sides? May be she aspired to live a little beyond their means but she didnt kill anyone not does that make her evil. He was obviously still fucking his wife yet he was still a crazy horn dog. He probably knew that already. Netflix viewers believe a murdered wife sent police a clue from beyond the grave after spotting something "creepy" in the doco about her brutal murder at the hands of her cheating husband. He was an empty canvas, grey rock, cipher. It makes the story a little more interesting, that she wasn't the perfect victim. He doesnt say but of course, we are only getting Leonards side of the story and we cant hear Shananns. (And filed for bankruptcy in 2015!). According to Good Housekeeping, Watts played the role of a concerned husband when Shanann's friend reported her missing after being unable to get in contact with her. That's twice a year every year for 10 years. But Colorado courts wouldve absolutely not allowed her to move out of state and take the girls, unless there was a good reason (my parents will provide day care for the kids - but they couldnt, since they both had to work) or Chris agreed. In lieu of flowers memorial donations can be made in memory honoring Shanann to the Lupus Foundation of America at 2121 K Street NW, Suite 200 Washington, DC 20037-1830.or to the Frederick Colorado Police Dept.- Missing Persons Division at PO Box 435 Frederick, CO 80530 or to the St.Judes Childrens Hospital at 501 St. Jude Place, Memphis, TN 38105, Online condolences can be made to www.bolesfuneralhome.com. He assumed that SHANANN kept her policy and would have changed the beneficiary. I thought that we at DL had figured out what likely happened months ago (had pretty good, comprehensive theories about that night that made sense): he covered the girls faces while they were asleep in their beds (possibly even after sedating them) so they quickly died practically in their sleep and never knew that it was daddy who did it. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? Two days later, he was arrested in connection with their deaths. She was a little grifter bitch. I feel its a form of abuse to film and live broadcast your family at all times. The 33-year-old pleaded guilty to killing his wife Shanann Watts and their children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, in exchange for avoiding the death penalty as part of a plea deal. Watts' wife was 15 weeks pregnant. He assumed that SHANANN kept her policy and would have changed the beneficiary. But despite Chris' violent actions, he seemed to have the support of his parents. But OH MY GOD! If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesnt mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. The man had the foresight of a gnat and zero sympathy, let alone empathy, for others. Following the disappearance of Chris' wife, Shanann Watts, and the couple's two children from a small Denver suburb in 2018, a major police hunt ensued. SHANANN would stay gone, but he was never concerned that something happened to her.LEONARD knew that SHANANN first worked with cell phones when he met her. R143: She didnt change her name. Chris Watts. By She left her own recorded testimony and out of her own mouth she indictes herself. They were a family. If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesn't mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. The family of Shanann Watts paid tribute to the slain Colorado mom, her two daughters and . She left home again to attend a quick work trip on Aug. 10, returning home just before 2 a.m. on Aug. 13. Chriss mom is a nasty soul and exhibits the toxic traits of a Narcissist herself, and so it would make sense. Words have devastating consequences. Sorry, anyone that feels for this monster needs his or her head examined, pronto. They withdraw and distance themselves. What a shame that you cant gawk at a picture of murdered children that r116 thinks they look cuter in. Ack I live just north of Shannon Shanann Rzucek King Watts and there are lots of places to hike around. I have friends whose kids have asthma, and they do not have that sort of look. Theres also the reality check that she might not have been able to leave the state if Chris filed for joint custody. And, the deceased woman's mother did, as well? Colorado believes a child has the right to love, support, and significant parenting time from both parents. But a physician assistant diagnosed it when all the MDs couldnt. He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. A bad attack meant a trip to the emergency room. ^ Thanks for clarifying. Please click here to get full access and no ads for $1.99 or less per month. How much did Shanann have wrapped up in inventory? Im sorry shes dead, but she was shady as fuck. Has everyone already forgotten the sub prime mortgage explosion of the early 2000s? What a tragedy. Happy deathaversary, Shanannanananananana!! All i could think of while watching this video, is what was going thru the minds of financially strapped husbands watching their wives spend money they didn't have on these scams? Think hes still lying about some details? And it goes beyond coldness eventheres almost like a sadistic quality to the whole thing. that they could have a credit rating for a house like that. Was she banging him, too? And I still think that he lied about some things and left details out of this confession. It was Bumfuck, NC, but still worth $400k. R222 everybody was exaggerating the crap out of their income and assets when applying for loans back then and getting away with it. I think Chris is secretly relieved to be in prison. Today, February 1, was Shannan's due date for her unborn baby. So I put her parents in the same category as all of the other people and businesses she has conned. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN took out life insurance policies when they were married around 2004/2005 through USAA. Do there was financial issues going on. Hello. Hours later, Chris killed her and the girls. Shannan and the ex's wife were FB friends, she signed her up to Thrive but she didn't do very well with it. In a new documentary from Netflix, newly revealed letters and texts show that Shanann had no idea that her marriage would soon turn deadly. Oh to be a remotely attractive straight white man. r255/r257 is a moron. Her crazy MIL spread stories about Shannaaaannna. Of course we can say nice things about her, too. She did cheat with the dirty south guy. Do not let your spouse engage in financial infidelity and ruin you! @Strawheart, how do you know she didnt kill the little girls? Until her murder, her biggest problem in life was the spelling of her name. Selling prescription meds? How many of us could say we have friends that would be there the next day looking for us with cops? Just stunning. Even NK barely talked about what he was like. Rinse and repeat in Colorado except the down payment probably came out of Chris's and/or her parents (who also filed bk) bank accounts. Here is a entertaining video of hausfraus selling Luluroe via MLM. He left one of their bed sheets in the field with the bodies. Those kids had a terrible life. Shed go to his friends houses and make fun of them after, for being too small or not having proper china or their decor for being quaint (thats rich). Men are just disposing of women like theyre garbage. 06:51 GMT 17 Aug 2018. CBI interview with Shan'ann's childhood friend. So all around, it would have been a lose-lose. She's the murdered frau of Chris Watts, who also killed their two tots. She must have been extremely annoying when alive. Quiet people may appear calm but Chris was not quiet inside. The interest must have been insane. He was charged with five counts . Watts wife was 15 weeks pregnant. Ugh time to FF the troll who is obsessed with this sexy murderer. Google 'Bella and Celeste Watts People.com' under Google images. According to Shannans ex, she had many of the same traits as Chris! She was a creep who wound up getting her kids killed for her control freak fuckery. That router article is amazing . LEONARD reported that he and . There was equity in the house but they didnt exactly buy low. Specially after they are both dead! A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. Learn the difference. 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